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theeprofessor
11-14-05, 08:51 PM
About 60 people killed?
Muslim Islamic terrorists killing other muslims!
Where are the war protesters at CMU? How come Cindy Sheehan and the Democrat Party aren't speaking out?
Where are the socialists and the liberals on this board and throughout America? Where is their outrage?
We take away a day of tennis at Club Gitmo or shakedown a terrorist at the swank country club, and the Liberals go crazy.
How come Muslims around the world are sounding like President Bush and are tired of these muslim terrorists? How come they are, but America's Liberals and socialists think the terrorist Muslims are such good people and President Bush who is trying to stop the terrorist muslims from killing others, is considered a bad guy?
About 60 people killed?
Muslim Islamic terrorists killing other muslims!
Where are the war protesters at CMU? How come Cindy Sheehan and the Democrat Party aren't speaking out?
Where are the socialists and the liberals on this board and throughout America? Where is their outrage?
We take away a day of tennis at Club Gitmo or shakedown a terrorist at the swank country club, and the Liberals go crazy.
How come Muslims around the world are sounding like President Bush and are tired of these muslim terrorists? How come they are, but America's Liberals and socialists think the terrorist Muslims are such good people and President Bush who is trying to stop the terrorist muslims from killing others, is considered a bad guy?
A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist. They are not good people. They are fanatics. You do not need to be Muslim to be a fanatic. You are jumbling war with terrorists (I know, cause Georgie said so.). If you still believe we went to war to stop terrorism, then you may need a neuorlogical exam done. Oh eprof, you're so much fun.
Jay Dickson
11-14-05, 10:23 PM
About 60 people killed?
Muslim Islamic terrorists killing other muslims!
Where are the war protesters at CMU? How come Cindy Sheehan and the Democrat Party aren't speaking out?
Where are the socialists and the liberals on this board and throughout America? Where is their outrage?
We take away a day of tennis at Club Gitmo or shakedown a terrorist at the swank country club, and the Liberals go crazy.
How come Muslims around the world are sounding like President Bush and are tired of these muslim terrorists? How come they are, but America's Liberals and socialists think the terrorist Muslims are such good people and President Bush who is trying to stop the terrorist muslims from killing others, is considered a bad guy?
It's not a matter of religion to those who lead the terrorists, it's a matter of power. The strong take advantage of the willingness of the weak minded and their dedication to a faith to turn them into soldiers of terror. You don't have to be Christian or Jewish to be a target, just in the way of their leaders. It happens with more than just Muslims. The crusade against the Cathars in the middle ages, for example, was an example of a terror and extermination campaign at the hands of the Catholic Church, as was the Spanish Inquisition. There was a similar situation with the McCarthy hearings in the 50's where the american government itself used fear of persecution to squash an opposing viewpoint.
Anyone can be a terrorist, and EVERYONE should be pissed off about it.
Vortz83
11-15-05, 12:21 AM
but America's Liberals and socialists think the terrorist Muslims are such good people
this is why you'll never gain respect. nobody thinks terrorists are good people. :rolleyes:
About 60 people killed?
Muslim Islamic terrorists killing other muslims!
Where are the war protesters at CMU? How come Cindy Sheehan and the Democrat Party aren't speaking out?
Where are the socialists and the liberals on this board and throughout America? Where is their outrage?
We take away a day of tennis at Club Gitmo or shakedown a terrorist at the swank country club, and the Liberals go crazy.
How come Muslims around the world are sounding like President Bush and are tired of these muslim terrorists? How come they are, but America's Liberals and socialists think the terrorist Muslims are such good people and President Bush who is trying to stop the terrorist muslims from killing others, is considered a bad guy?
When did Cindy Sheehan protest killing terrorists? I thought she was petitioning to have our troops withdrawn from overseas.
Eddie has it right - a terrorist is a terrorist. It doesn't matter what race, creed, origin, etcetera. It's a mindset that anyone can have. A terrorist is someone who employs terror to get what they want.
Bush gets flack because it appears he's in a war that is killing more non-terrorists than terrorists. When you're fighting a war on terrorism, it's good to back it up with numbers of dead terrorists. That's what people want. When Americans, Iraqi civilians, and Iraqi insurgents are dying far more often than terrorists, people start to have a problem. From time to time I wonder why it's called a War on Terror(ism). That's not really accurate, is it? It's a war on Middle Eastern Terrorism.
theeprofessor
11-15-05, 05:56 AM
Why is it that all terrorists just happen to be Muslim? Have you ever asked this to a multicultural person?
Jay Dickson
11-15-05, 09:32 AM
Why is it that all terrorists just happen to be Muslim? Have you ever asked this to a multicultural person?
yeah... um Timothy McVeigh wasn't a muslim... neither was Terry Nichols. Randy Maske wasn't a muslim, and neither are the members of the IRA.
Perhaps all the terrorists you KNOW of are Muslim, but all that proves is that you don't know a whole hell of a lot.
Why is it that all terrorists just happen to be Muslim? Have you ever asked this to a multicultural person?
Well, that's about the stupidest thing that's ever come out of your mouth.
From www.m-w.com:
Terrorist: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
All terrorists are definately not Muslim.
Blisters
11-15-05, 12:26 PM
I saw a guy interviewed on some cable news show last week, don't remember his name, but he did a study of all suicide bombers in recent years. He found that more than half were non-religious and were motivated by political reasons.
Granted, we do have a big problem with Muslim extremist terrorists, but they are by no means the only kinds of terrorists.
Incidentally, I don't seem to remember any Iraqi suicide bombers in the past. This seems to be one of the results of our war in Iraq: we've turned it into a breeding ground for terrorism where there was none before.
Blisters
11-15-05, 12:28 PM
Here are some non-Muslim terrorists:
Burning Rage
Nov. 13, 2005(CBS) When they first emerged in the mid-1990s, the environmental extremists calling themselves the “Earth Liberation Front” announced they were “the burning rage of a dying planet.”
Ever since, the ELF, along with its sister group, the Animal Liberation Front, has been burning everything from SUV dealerships to research labs to housing developments.
In recent years, these so-called “eco-terrorists” have been responsible for more than a thousand crimes resulting in over $100 million in damage. And their tactics and rhetoric continue to escalate.
Things have gotten so bad, the FBI now considers them the country’s biggest domestic terrorist threat.
Correspondent Ed Bradley reports.
The biggest act of eco-terrorism in U.S. history was a fire, deliberately set on the night of August 1, 2003, that destroyed a nearly-completed $23 million apartment complex just outside San Diego. The fire was set to protest urban sprawl.
“It was the biggest fire I have ever responded to as a firefighter,” remembers Jeff Carle, a division chief for the San Diego Fire Department. “That fire was not stoppable. At the stage that the fire was in when we arrived, there were problems in the adjacent occupied apartment complexes. Pine trees were starting to catch fire. Items on patios were starting to light up and catch fire. And we had to direct our activity towards saving life before we could do anything about the property.”
Hundreds were roused from their beds and evacuated. Luckily, nobody – including firefighters – was injured. By the time the fire burned itself out the next morning, all that remained was a 12-foot-long banner that read: “If you build it, we will burn it.” Also on the banner was the acronym: E-L-F.
When Carle saw the banner, he says he knew he had a problem.
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“Having the FBI chase you around is not a good thing,” says John Lewis, a Deputy Assistant Director for Counterterrorism at the FBI. Lewis is the man charged with stamping out eco-terrorism in the United States.
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Case in point is Dr. Jerry Vlasak, a practicing trauma surgeon in Los Angeles, who also acts as a spokesperson for several extreme animal rights groups. Vlasak has told audiences that it’s time to consider assassinating people who do research on animals.
Vlasak has been quoted as saying ‘I think for five lives, ten lives, 15 human lives, we could save a million, two million, ten million nonhuman lives.’
“I think people who torture innocent beings should be stopped. And if they won't stop when you ask them nicely, they won't stop when you demonstrate to them what they're doing is wrong, then they should be stopped using whatever means necessary,” Vlasak replied.
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“Just like at one time black humans were considered property. Well, dogs, cats and all other animals in our society are still considered property,” Vlasak says.
Asked who he thinks is fair game, Vlasak says, “Well, I think anybody that tortures animals for a living or for a profit and who won't stop when they're asked to and won't stop.”
Does that include researchers who are testing and performing tests using animals?”
“Animal researchers, slaughterhouse workers, the head of the corporation that slaughters hundreds of millions of chickens every single year for the taste of their flesh,” says Vlasak.
Well, people like chicken.
“People liked owning slaves too, okay. That doesn't make it right,” Vlasak said.
Vlasak says it’s very straightforward in his mind.
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The FBI and other law enforcement agencies are also looking at what works. They’re winning longer prison sentences for convicted eco-terrorists. And they’re pushing legislation in congress that would make it a crime to threaten violence against any person or institution that uses animals to do business. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/10/60minutes/main1036067.shtml
theeprofessor
11-15-05, 12:50 PM
Amanda, who was the last terrorist who wasn't muslim?
Amanda, who was the last terrorist who wasn't muslim?
Did you not read my definition from Mirriam-Webster, Eprof? Did you ignore Jay Dickson's post completely? Does the name Timothy McVeigh ring a bell? What about the Unibomber? The Unicorn Killer? The Zodiac Killer? Jeffrey Dahlmer? Charles Manson? Hitler? Stalin? Lenin? The KKK? Recognize any of these names?
Let me refresh your memory:
Terrorist: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
Serial killers fall under that. Lots of people fall under that definition. You know who else falls under that? George W. Bush. The definition doesn't say terror has to be used against Americans, nor does it say it has to be justified. What about all those Muslims who think Bush is a terrorist? Does that mean Bush is Muslim?
You conservatives b*tch about how the "left-wing" media shows nothing good about Iraq ... and yet here you are calling all terrorists Muslims. Your view is narrow-minded and shows a complete lack of understanding for the word terrorist and the inability to separate the word 'terrorist' from 'muslim.'
Amanda, who was the last terrorist who wasn't muslim?
You are the one claiming all terrorists were Muslim....don't jump Amanda's shiot for it.
Blisters
11-15-05, 06:23 PM
How nice that our little experiment in Iraq has created a new breeding ground for "Muslim terrorists" where there was none before:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1129575-1,00.html
theeprofessor
11-16-05, 07:27 AM
McVeigh was 1995. Any white folks since?
I don't think so.
Stalin and them were 60-70-80 years ago.
In the last 10 to 30 years, it's been middle-eastern Muslim Terrorists.
You should ask the Multiculturalists why this is. I'd be curious to hear their answer.
Blisters
11-16-05, 08:08 AM
McVeigh was 1995. Any white folks since?
I don't think so.
Stalin and them were 60-70-80 years ago.
In the last 10 to 30 years, it's been middle-eastern Muslim Terrorists.
You should ask the Multiculturalists why this is. I'd be curious to hear their answer.
Another stew of professorial irrationality. Eprof: you didn't include anything about the Theft of Christmas in this batch of stew! Is it too late to add some now?
Blisters
11-16-05, 08:14 AM
Any white folks since?
Eprof,
Don't get too far out ahead of yourself. Surely there will soon be another thread about environmentalism, and you will want to raise the specter of left-wing environmental terrorists!
If you please just scroll back up to post #10 in this thread, you will see a detailed story about white terrorists who "have been responsible for more than a thousand crimes resulting in over $100 million in damage."
Let's not forget about Eric Rudolph, abortion clinic and Olympic Park bomber: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph
Let's not forget the Anthrax attacks in September, 2001, which were surely perpetrated by a white, American conservative (given the targets were all liberal Democrats and liberal media organizations).
McVeigh was 1995. Any white folks since?
I don't think so.
Stalin and them were 60-70-80 years ago.
In the last 10 to 30 years, it's been middle-eastern Muslim Terrorists.
You should ask the Multiculturalists why this is. I'd be curious to hear their answer.
Convenient that you ignored George W. Bush. How's that for recent?
If you want an answer from a Multiculturist, go find it yourself.
Get it right, Amanda. George W. Bush isn't a terrorist, he's the antichrist. Get it right.
Get it right, Amanda. George W. Bush isn't a terrorist, he's the antichrist. Get it right.
You can call it however you want, K2.
theeprofessor
11-16-05, 12:43 PM
I wonder if any liberal, socialist, multiculturalist (they're all the same) will admit that the muslim terrorist kill and harm people and that they are the biggest threat to world peace. I wonder how many, if any, would admit to it.
Under multicultural rules, we're suppose to see terrorist middle-easterner muslims as good people. People who have been depressed by the West and Israel.
I wonder if any liberal, socialist, multiculturalist (they're all the same) will admit that the muslim terrorist kill and harm people and that they are the biggest threat to world peace. I wonder how many, if any, would admit to it.
Under multicultural rules, we're suppose to see terrorist middle-easterner muslims as good people. People who have been depressed by the West and Israel.
That's like saying that black criminals break the law when it would make much more sense to say that criminals break the law.
Wouldn't it make much more sense to say that terrorists kill and harm people and that they are a threat to world peace?
Are muslim terrorists the only terrorists that are a threat to world peace?
I wonder if any liberal, socialist, multiculturalist (they're all the same) will admit that the muslim terrorist kill and harm people and that they are the biggest threat to world peace. I wonder how many, if any, would admit to it.
Under multicultural rules, we're suppose to see terrorist middle-easterner muslims as good people. People who have been depressed by the West and Israel.Wow. you finally got something right. We ARE supopsed to see mideast Muslims as good people. As a matter of fact...Muslim Islamic terrorists killing other muslims!...your very first post on this topic mentioned the fact that Muslims are the primary victims of these terrorist attacks. As far as their repression by westerners, would you deny that American troops currently occupy their country, as well as Islamic Afghanistan? Would you counter that Israel is not, in fact, killing Muslims and displacing them from their homes by force of arms? What exactly constitutes repression, suppression, or depression, whichever term you meant to use, in your words?
People do not become terrorists because it's a fun hobby. They don't bomb cafes and police stations because of peer pressure or because it's in their blood. They do it because they feel they have no other option. What option have we given them?
These people aren't bombing American cafes and police stations. They're bombing occupying forces. What you're saying could be compared to saying the French Resistance was the "biggest threat to world peace" when they were bombing occupying Nazi German forces.
Blaming them because they're Muslim is irresponsible and reprehensible. If you could look beyond your conservative myopia and xenophobia you might see the real cause, and maybe, just maybe see the real solution.
I wonder if any liberal, socialist, multiculturalist (they're all the same) will admit that the muslim terrorist kill and harm people and that they are the biggest threat to world peace. I wonder how many, if any, would admit to it.
Under multicultural rules, we're suppose to see terrorist middle-easterner muslims as good people. People who have been depressed by the West and Israel.
No, we're just supposed to have an ounce of intelligence that allows us to differentiate between Terrorists and Muslims. Do you judge all Christians by what KKK Christians do/have done? It's just as utterly imbecilic to judge all Muslims by what a handful of Muslim Terrorists do/have done.
theeprofessor
11-16-05, 09:42 PM
The Afghans and the Iraqis are glad that we liberated their countries. I'd bet Kuma, that you and some of the others on this board would be pulling for Hitler when he occupied France, Poland and other European countries. You obviously love dictators who kill their own people.
The Afghans and the Iraqis are glad that we liberated their countries. I'd bet Kuma, that you and some of the others on this board would be pulling for Hitler when he occupied France, Poland and other European countries. You obviously love dictators who kill their own people.
That is a disgusting thing to say that could only come from a being completely void of any intelligence or discernable benefits to society.
If you say the Iraqis and Afghans are happy that we liberated their countries, then why are we still fighting over there? Why do I hear about my brother being shot at by Iraqi civilians in downtown Baghdad?
The Afghans and the Iraqis are glad that we liberated their countries. I'd bet Kuma, that you and some of the others on this board would be pulling for Hitler when he occupied France, Poland and other European countries. You obviously love dictators who kill their own people.Are you saying this because I drew similarities between French resistors in WW2 and Iraqi terrorists in Baghdad and it made you feel uncomfortable to be in full support of Herr Bush? It was people, like you, eprof, who "supported" Hitler's actions in Poland and France by encouraging independance and isolationism in the late 1930s. It was conservative thought that those people's problems were their own, and we had no reason to get involved, and we shouldn't care about them. Just like you don't care about Muslims. To you, everybody who isn't just like you is the enemy.
You may now feel free to count me among yours. You are no longer amusing.
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